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• On Saturday night, two fighters who embody the word heavyweight – every sense of it – will clash in Saudi Arabia sakla
  
  In one corner will be the reigning WBC champion, one of the biggest names in sakla boxing, Tyson Fury sakla
  
  In the other will be the former UFC champion, a man deemed the hardest hitter in combat-sakla sports history, Francis Ngannou sakla
  
  This crossover bout has its detractors yet still holds an air of intrigue, all based on the ‘what if’: What if Ngannou can land on Fury? What if one of those monstrous hands touches the Briton’s chin with the velocity and malicious intent that have come to define Ngannou’s fighting career, and which carried the Cameroonian to the UFC heavyweight title? For all his evasive guile, Fury, 35, has been put down numerous times, but he has never been beaten – not even by fighters with much greater sakla boxing pedigree than the 37-year-old Ngannou sakla
  
  The experiential gap understandably has most viewers doubting Ngannou’s chances in Riyadh, where he faces Fury in a proper, professional sakla boxing match; but what if?And if Ngannou is to win, how will he? Attacking Fury to the body? Battering him in the clinch? Backing him into a corner? Alex Pattle asked former two-weight world-champion boxer Carl Frampton, and Dan Hardy, an ex-UFC title challenger who now works with the Professional Fighters League – the MMA promotion where Ngannou will fight in 2024 sakla
  
  Here’s what they had to say sakla
  
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  AP: What was your initial reaction to the fight being announced?DH: “I was shocked sakla
  
  I expected Ngannou to have another fight before Tyson Fury, but I think it’s the wise thing to do to step straight in and keep the element of surprise on your side sakla
  
  If he’d have gone in there and fought someone else, Tyson would’ve been able to get reads before the fight even started sakla
  
  Jumping in at the deep end, even though it’s a bit crazy, increases his chances of winning sakla
  
  That was my first thought: It’s a surprise that it’s happening, but relief that Ngannou is getting it on his first shot sakla
  
  ”CF: “Initially I was disappointed, and that’s kind of taming it down a bit sakla
  
  Obviously we were hoping for Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk and that fell through, but now I’ve come round to the idea that this is a huge event sakla
  
  And we’ve got Fury vs Usyk off the back of it sakla
  
  I was always hopeful that fight would come about at some point, and I don’t wanna be talking as if Ngannou is gonna be a complete walkover for Fury, but I’m okay about it [because] the Fury vs Usyk fight has been made for some point in the future sakla
  
  Also, the money the guys are making with this event sakla
  
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  ”AP: Do fans need to be more understanding of fighters taking ‘money fights’?Carl Frampton, left, and Dan Hardy discussing Fury vs Ngannou (TNT sakla Sports sakla Boxing via YouTube)CF: “Maybe a little bit sakla
  
  sakla Boxing fans in particular are very opinionated, and I understand that they’re frustrated sakla
  
  But if you’re Tyson Fury and someone’s offering you a fight of this magnitude against a sakla boxing debutant, and there are talks of $30m – and $10m for Ngannou – how do you turn that down? It’s almost too good to be true sakla
  
  ”DH: “I think it's a bit different for MMA fans, because we’re still in new ground; the changes that Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor made in fighters’ purses and expectations for purses sakla
  
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  as a matchmaker, I’m still dealing with the repercussions of that! Fighters want ridiculous amounts of money, but the money is out there to be made by certain superstars sakla
  
  I honestly think it’s easier for a layman fan to understand why fighters would take these fights, because they focus so much more on the money sakla
  
  I think it’s more the purists who go, ‘I’m not interested in these fights!’ [To the layman], the money and pay-per-view buys almost represent the value of the fighter; to the purists, the value of the fighter is based on their technical ability and achievements sakla
  
  ”CF: “I hate to use the term ‘casual fan’, but there’s a big difference sakla between the purists and just the casual fan sakla
  
  I think you’ll win back [the purists] with Fury vs Usyk, but it’s all a bit trivial almost, because [most] fans are fickle sakla
  
  I’m expecting Fury to beat Ngannou and then fight Usyk, and it’ll almost be like the talk and criticism of the Ngannou fight will go away sakla
  
  ”AP: Do crossover events like Tommy Fury vs KSI and Logan Paul vs Dillon Danis risk putting fans off fights like Fury vs Ngannou?Ngannou, right, at an open workout in Riyadh this week (Getty Images)DH: “I personally think it’s all on the same spectrum – just at different points on the spectrum sakla
  
  That Misfits sakla Boxing card sakla
  
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  I’ll be honest, I was able to make peace with that whole genre of combat sakla sports much easier after that event, because it’s more like pro wrestling sakla
  
  The audience there, they’re not gonna buy a ticket to see ‘Canelo’ Alvarez; they’re not there for that, they’re there for the drama – for the security getting involved, for the plexiglass cages they put them in at the face-offs sakla
  
  It’s theatre with a combat-sakla sports flavour sakla
  
  ”AP: What is Ngannou’s chance of winning – as a percentage – in your opinion?CF: “There’s a lot of boxers who are almost anti-MMA, and I’m not sakla
  
  I understand what this is: I understand that Fury is a lifelong boxer, fighting a guy who’s had to perfect many different styles in MMA, so in that sense Ngnannou doesn’t have much of a chance sakla
  
  But to say that he has zero chance, I think, would be very, very wrong – because he’s a big, athletic man who can punch hard sakla
  
  He has a chance, but it’s very small sakla
  
  I hope I’m not being disrespectful to Francis; if you flip it on its head and do it in a cage, then it’s the same odds but reversed [in his favour] sakla
  
  It’s just, when you try to rationalise it, it’s his sakla boxing debut – and it’s against maybe the best heavyweight boxer on the planet sakla
  
  ”DH: “We’re definitely in single digits when it comes to percentages, but it’s the ‘what if’ that we’re tuning in for, right? Even if it’s a 0 sakla
  
  1 per cent chance that Ngannou is gonna land that shot, we’re all gonna sit and watch in case that happens sakla
  
  If it does, then he’s got the power to knock Fury out sakla
  
  The reason I feel this is an intriguing fight is because sakla
  
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  if you look at Ngannou against the likes of Jairzinho Rozenstruik, who’s got over 80 kicksakla boxing matches and moves with very traditional patterns, Rozenstruik was taken out very, very quickly – and ferociously – because Ngannou flew at him, coming from all kinds of different angles sakla
  
  You just can’t predict those things sakla
  
  Ngannou knocked out Jairzinho Rozenstruik in 20 seconds (Getty Images)“Against Deontay Wilder, Fury was dealing with someone who’s got ferocious punching power but who’s got some basic fundamentals that make him a little bit predictable sakla
  
  If Ngannou starts patient and then starts winging those big shots from weird angles, which Tyson’s probably not anticipating, that elevates his chances – but they’re still incredibly slim sakla
  
  "CF: “That’s the thing sakla
  
  High-end boxers often talk about when they spar novice guys, it’s all really unorthodox; they’re not taught to defend against shots that are coming from [certain angles], and it can be a bit awkward at times sakla
  
  ”AP: We know that Ngannou needs to knock out Fury to win sakla
  
  But how does he knock out Fury?DH: “If I was trying to solve this problem for Ngannou, I’d say: We’re working with 90-degree corners in a sakla boxing ring, so that’s something I’d like to work towards sakla
  
  It’s gonna be difficult to back Tyson up, of course, and he’s very good at standing on his back foot and making his head feel like it’s a long way away sakla
  
  So, Ngannou has to work to the body and vary his target to potentially bring Fury’s hands down sakla
  
  Ngannou has thunderous punching, so if he lands to the ribs, he might open up an opportunity sakla
  
  If he’s just head-hunting, it’s not gonna happen sakla
  
  Play a little bit of sakla boxing, but when it comes to uncorking those big shots, really commit to them sakla
  
  And ideally put Tyson in a corner, up against the ropes sakla
  
  ”CF: “With Ngannou’s MMA background and knowledge of wrestling and grappling, he will have success when they’re in really close quarters and Tyson’s trying to hold on sakla
  
  This might be something that Tyson’s never experienced before, where someone can get out of a clinch rather easily and land a shot sakla
  
  Ngannou can’t stand off and outbox Tyson, that’s not gonna happen sakla
  
  ”Fury was knocked down four times across three fights with Deontay Wilder (Getty Images)AP: Ngannou last fought in MMA in January 2022 and has largely been in sakla boxing training since sakla
  
  What kind of MMA fighter will he be when he makes his PFL debut in 2024?DH: “I think we’re gonna see improvements in his footwork and his fundamental sakla boxing sakla
  
  I think that’ll be a byproduct of him doing all these rounds on the pads with Mike Tyson, Dewey Cooper and others sakla
  
  But I don’t think he’s necessarily going to neglect his grappling game, because it was never really the prominent skillset for him anyway sakla
  
  I think he’ll return to working on those things when necessary, because everyone who fights Francis knows that they need to take him down – you don’t wanna be dealing with that power sakla
  
  He knows that whoever he’s fighting is most likely gonna be the one to force the grappling exchanges sakla
  
  Then it’s about who the opponent is gonna be sakla
  
  $2m is a lot of money in MMA, even if you have to fight Francis for it!”Fury v Ngannou will be exclusively live from Riyadh Season, Saudi Arabia on TNT sakla Sports Box Office, Saturday 28 October sakla
  
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  uk/boxofficeMore aboutTyson FuryFrancis NgannouCarl FramptonDan HardyMMAJoin our commenting forumJoin thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their repliesComments1/5What Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’What Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Carl Frampton, left, and Dan Hardy discussing Fury vs NgannouTNT sakla Sports sakla Boxing via YouTubeWhat Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Ngannou, right, at an open workout in Riyadh this week Getty ImagesWhat Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Ngannou knocked out Jairzinho Rozenstruik in 20 seconds Getty ImagesWhat Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Fury was knocked down four times across three fights with Deontay WilderGetty ImagesWhat Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Francis Ngannou during his mesmerising UFC runGetty Images✕Subscribe to Independent Premium to bookmark this articleWant to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today sakla
  
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  Two elderly men were suited sakla
  
  In one case, he was much smarter than normal, dressed up for the occasion sakla
  
  He was the taller, more angular, with the more pronounced Northumbrian accent, but the resemblance was nonetheless apparent sakla
  
  He was the older, too, and had long referred to a knight of the realm as “Our Kid” sakla
  
  He adopted a slightly more formal approach, while seemingly choking up sakla
  
  “Bobby Charlton is the greatest player I’ve ever seen,” he said sakla
  
  “He’s me brother sakla
  
  ”It was 15 years ago, when Jack Charlton presented his younger brother with the Lifetime Achievement Award at the BBC sakla Sports Personality of the Year award sakla
  
  The clip has an added poignancy after Bobby’s death at 86; three years ago, a couple of months after his 85th birthday, Jack had died sakla
  
  The brothers were different players and very different characters – the wisecracking, outspoken Jack was more of a man of the people, but Bobby’s quiet dignity gave him a statesmanlike air sakla
  
  They were not always close but their achievements will live on sakla
  
  There have been 22 men’s sakla football World Cups and only two sets of brothers have won the most prestigious of prizes: Fritz and Ottmar Walter for West Germany in 1954, Bobby and Jack Charlton at West Germany’s expense in 1966 sakla
  
  It remains the most famous year in English sakla football history; perhaps it always will sakla
  
  At the heart of it was Bobby Charlton: the 1966 FWA sakla Footballer of the Year and Ballon d’Or winner, named by France sakla Football – in the days before Fifa had an official award – as the best player at the World Cup sakla
  
  Gary Lineker, who was a goal away from equalling Charlton’s long-standing national record of 49 for his country, called him England’s greatest ever player, Gary Neville, one of his successors as Manchester United captain, deemed him the greatest ever English player sakla
  
  They are not necessarily the same: but in Charlton’s case, he could be both sakla
  
  Perhaps only the other immortal Bobby – Moore, the 1966 captain – can challenge him for the title of the finest in an England shirt sakla
  
  RecommendedSir Bobby Charlton turned tragedy into triumph with unique style and perseveranceFans lay flowers and scarves at Old Trafford following death of Bobby CharltonTributes paid to ‘giant of the game’ Sir Bobby Charlton after his death at 86Charlton was the second English sakla footballer, and just the third man, to reach 100 caps sakla
  
  His 106th and last, in the 1970 quarter-final against West Germany, set a world record that Moore – and then many others – subsequently passed sakla
  
  He straddled eras – his first cap came alongside Tom Finney, who debuted in England’s first match after the Second World War, and one of the last alongside Emlyn Hughes, who represented his country in the 1980s – but defined one, a time of glory sakla
  
  Thirty years before Frank Skinner and David Baddiel sang about sakla football coming home, Charlton brought it back sakla
  
  Their lyric – “Bobby belting the ball” – conjured images, some in colour, some in black and white, of a figure with a combover hairstyle and the cannonball shot striking the ball with beautiful ferocity, often rising throughout its way into the net sakla
  
  Bobby Charlton, centre, celebrates with the World Cup at Wembley (Getty Images)Decades before the invention of expected goals, Charlton was scoring unexpected ones sakla
  
  Consider his opener against Mexico, England’s first of the 1966 World Cup, from such a distance that the chance of it going in was statistically low, except for one factor: that Charlton, with such power on either foot, was hitting it sakla
  
  He was the master of the long-range hit: if most of Lineker’s 48 goals were predatory finishes, many of Charlton’s 49 were spectacular sakla
  
  Such a clean striker of a ball was not a striker at all: largely a left winger in his younger days, later the attacking-midfield fulcrum of Sir Alf Ramsey’s ‘Wingless Wonders’ sakla
  
  He began in the old W-M formation, ended up as, in effect, the tip of a midfield diamond sakla
  
  It was a tactical shift, a belated move into modernity that Ramsey brought sakla
  
  If there was a pragmatism to England’s World Cup win, Charlton was the artist sakla
  
  With his brace against Portugal in the 1966 semi-final – like another double against Portuguese opposition, Benfica, in the 1968 European Cup final – he illustrated his talent could shine on the biggest of occasions sakla
  
  The 1966 semi-final was not seen by his father, Robert, a coal miner working a shift underground in his home town of Ashington; “his duty”, Bobby subsequently, and remarkably, reflected sakla
  
  On the grandest stage of all, the 1966 final, he was sacrificed, Charlton and Franz Beckenbauer deputed to man-mark each other sakla
  
  They received the same assignment in the 1970 quarter-final; England’s era of ascendency ended when Ramsey removed Charlton with 20 minutes remaining to save him for the semi-final, the 32-year-old distracted by the prospect of his withdrawal as Beckenbauer ran forward to reduce England’s lead to 2-1; without him, they lost 3-2 sakla
  
  Ramsey thanked him for his service on the plane back from Mexico: Bobby knew his England career, like Jack’s, was over sakla
  
  Bobby Charlton in action against his brother Jack (PA Archive)It could have been still more glorious: keep Charlton on and maybe England would have prevailed in 1970 sakla
  
  But for Garrincha’s brilliance, Charlton wondered if England would have been victorious in the 1962 quarter-final against Brazil, and then the tournament as a whole sakla
  
  He went to four World Cups in all, not taking the field in his first: time has rendered it more extraordinary that his England debut came in 1958, a couple of months after the Munich air disaster sakla
  
  He scored, too, but if a poorer performance on his third cap was understandable – it came in Belgrade, scene of the Busby Babes’ last game before Munich – it cost him his place in Walter Winterbottom’s starting 11 in Sweden sakla
  
  Were Duncan Edwards, Roger Byrne, Tommy Taylor and Eddie Colman to have lived, perhaps England would have won more and sooner sakla
  
  But it was Charlton who became the emblem of English sakla football; the face of what is now a bygone age sakla
  
  In its own way, it felt appropriate that a man who carried a huge responsibility for decades was the last survivor among the players at Munich; now it may be fitting that Geoff Hurst, who had the final say in 1966, is the last of Ramsey’s chosen 11, forever charged with paying tributes to his fallen comrades sakla
  
  And Bobby Charlton, the greatest player Jack ever saw, the greatest to have Three Lions on his shirt, took England to the summit of the global game sakla
  
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